camfaults
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Historian, researcher, writer; major focus on cold cases of California
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Post by camfaults on Jan 31, 2022 7:40:01 GMT
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camfaults
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Historian, researcher, writer; major focus on cold cases of California
Posts: 151
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Post by camfaults on Jan 31, 2022 7:45:31 GMT
"According to reports, no murder weapons were brought to the scene, but were all obtained by the killers from the house as the murders were taking place."
Doesn't sound like they thought a second hammer had been used in the murders.
Too bad the Unsolved Mysteries episode didn't work out. I wonder if it was the Plumas County Board of Supervisors who wouldn't fund the trip for investigators?
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Post by Pooh Bah-hah on Jan 31, 2022 12:32:49 GMT
good christ what a fucking idiot! The press prints what the corrupt cops tell them, and you eat their shit as reality! At least DMac prints real reports proving the cops lied! You're a Fox idiot, too, I bet!
KILL TRUMP AND KILL ALL HIS MORON MINIONS!
You are a moron, and your name proves it! Quake-n-Bake Crackers, Cali is full of nuts and flakes!
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Post by Hope on Jan 31, 2022 19:12:46 GMT
good christ what a fucking idiot! The press prints what the corrupt cops tell them, and you eat their shit as reality! At least DMac prints real reports proving the cops lied! You're a Fox idiot, too, I bet! KILL TRUMP AND KILL ALL HIS MORON MINIONS! Thank you for posting all of these news articles Cam. There is a lot of important information inside these articles and people should take the time to read them. Despite Dmac's attempt to discredit, this article accurately matches what was being done in the case, what the files say. The claims of corruption are ridiculous, the officers were putting in a lot of work for people supposedly trying to bury the case. You haven't proved any such thing. You speculate and give your opinion. And then you claim your opinions are the facts. You post reports that you feel you can twist to somehow fit your theory & crop away info you don't want people to see. Have you ever heard of the saying "go where the evidence leads you"? You have it backwards, you are making the evidence fit your theory. A theory that is based on cherry-picked reports, information told in an old documentary, and stories told by the Meeks, Marilyn, Sheila, etc. The same people you call liars and accuse of horrendous things based on your opinion. You pick and chose what stories are true based on what "evidence" you've found that may fit into your theory. If it doesn't fit your theory it's a lie. Other things are twisted into "they said this but I figured out it really meant that", reverse alibis, etc. None of that is evidence. It Information has come out proving certain things are not as you've claimed but instead of taking a step back & reevaluating things you decide it's a fake report or it's a lie. If there's something in a report that doesn't match your theory then the report is falsified. So let me break that down for you , just because you say or think something that doesn't make it true. Proving something requires proof. Until then, all these things you claim to be facts are just your opinion. Whether you like it or not, everyone is entitled to discuss this case and without you showing up acting like a freak. If you were so confident in your theory, you wouldn't be wasting your time coming over here.
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Post by snoho17 on Jan 31, 2022 22:43:08 GMT
I did pop over to your Facebook. Maybe I missed it, but I'm not seeing any secret 2nd polygraph test of Martin Smartt, all I see is s guy who needs tutoring in our Jurisprudence. The PCSO did not just scandalously let Bo and Marty leave, their 4th amendment rights allowed them to leave. The police had no evidence warranting arrests, they couldn't have put them on house arrest? Is that how you think things work?
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Post by Hope on Feb 1, 2022 0:20:14 GMT
Lying cunt. IGNORE HOPE, SHE'S STUPID AND DISHONEST. READ THE REPORTS on DMAC'S FB Pg. The report he's been putting up from Crim proves the investigation was a fraud! They KNEW Bo and Marty were lying, that Marty FAILED the lie detector, and they let two of the killers walk. What a lying whore you are, Hopeless! You sure are a real peach, Peachie Poo. Disagreeing with your opinion is not lying. As we have already stated several times, we want people to read the files and be able form their own opinion. And people cannot form their own conclusion when they are prohibited from seeing all the information. You have your theory and you post only what pertains to your theory. There is a lot more to this case than Marty & Bo, but you "bury it", just as accuse has PCSO done. You show just a small portion, not the full picture. In regards to Crims interview, it's been known forever that Crim knew Bo lied during his interview. It's written in Bo's PON entry which was released over a decade ago. Bo was a scammer & a bullshitter. He and Marty had been pulling those scams together, their scams even made it in the paper. And he bullshitted in his interview, but not about anything related to the murders. He & Marty did tell consistent stories about their evening at the bar, when they arrived, left and returned. Bo told them he was leaving that day and told them exactly where he would be staying. Doesn't sound like he was trying to hide or flee from the police. People saw them leave and return to the bar. No one reported seeing any blood on them. They only had 15 minutes to accomplish everything you claim they did. Here are some lesser known facts about the case: - Police have DNA samples on Marty, Bo, Marilyn, and Dee. No matches to any of the evidence tested.
- None of the fingerprints recovered matched either
- Over 200 pieces of evidence were collected from the crime scene. All of evidence is still in storage. This has been repeated several times over the years including just last year by Gamberg.
- Several other people confessed to the murders
- There were many more people looked into as suspects and who made good suspects.
- Tina was a troubled little girl
- There are many statements involving J&D with certain activities.
The PCSO officers of 1981 did not have all the resources that are available today. Cases older and with less evidence than this are being solved everyday. MMBD were heavily investigated these past few years, using today's technology and they came up empty, not one piece of evidence tying them to the murders.
Maybe some of those suspects from the original investigation, suspects that have been dismissed in recent years because "Marty & Bo did it". Maybe they should be giving another look using today's technology. Instead of dismissing people as liars because they told a story that didn't fit in with the prevailing theory, maybe they should have been re-interviewed to hear what they had to say today.
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Post by Hope on Feb 1, 2022 0:32:22 GMT
Hasn't that information also been known this entire time? Marty showed deception when asked the question "Do you know who was responsible for the murders?".
But again, that is not proof he committed these murders. Yes, he should have been questioned to find out what he may know. But Marty was interviewed several times and that's exactly what that recording of DTs appears to be - them recording & questioning Marty trying to find out what he knew .
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Post by kmik on Feb 1, 2022 1:37:42 GMT
Thanks for posting that Cam. I agree Marty showing deception on that question means nothing to me since his stepson was in the house during the murders and seemed to know an awful lot of what went on. Isn't LE supposed to start close and work their way out? That would be starting with the family or in this case the people who were left alive - the closest thing to them really knowing what went on and possibly who the killer(s) was/were.
Alot of the people who worked on this case have already passed away but the only thing I've gathered from what we have seen is they were working EVERY angle - and they had alot of angles to work." Liars, Dopers, and Psycho's" - did somebody say Doug Thomas is the one responsible for that heading on Timeline A??? If so Doug Thomas nailed it! Kudos to Doug Thomas, Don Stoy and anyone else who truly worked this case!!
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Post by Hope on Feb 1, 2022 16:44:36 GMT
agree Marty showing deception on that question means nothing to me since his stepson was in the house during the murdersAbsolutely, I second that statement kmik! These officers have been unfairly slandered and accused of awful things. They deserve some recognition for all the hard work, time & effort they put into trying to solve this case. Here are some quotes Don Stoy made in the above article. Many other news articles have similar sentiments from LE members: Yes, he was trying so hard to coverup this crime that he spent God knows how much time going through every interview & pulling out pertinent info. Creating a timeline to help in the investigation & make sense of all the conflicting information they were being told. Why take the time to do that if he had no intentions of solving the murders? Makes no sense. Can't say he was doing it just for show. That was created for use in the department, the public was never supposed to see all these investigative materials! Attachments:
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Post by Pooh Bah-hah on Feb 1, 2022 17:37:52 GMT
What a batch of sickoes. You not only refuse to recognize reality, you now publicly give blowjobs to the scum police who let them go! WOW! I cannot believe sick fucks like you exist!
No wonder Dmac kicked you off his website! SICK SICK SICK!
And LIARS!
Dog Thomas didn't compile any timeline, you LIARS.
Sick, twisted, ugly people! Burn in hell, right alongside the corrupt cops you wanna fuck, like some death-hag version of a rock groupie!
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Post by snoho17 on Feb 2, 2022 0:07:25 GMT
*Dmac never did kick me off his site. And what can I say? Some cops are hot and I'm only human
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