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Post by snoho17 on Feb 21, 2022 22:41:56 GMT
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Post by snoho17 on Mar 23, 2022 6:12:51 GMT
SCAMMEL, EUGENE & MARY
He saw 68 - 70 light color Dodge with rear end damage & round tail light parked Sharp's house on 4/9/81, she heard either Bobbie or Scott Forcino at acid party in MV 4/11/81 night
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Post by snoho17 on Mar 10, 2023 23:49:16 GMT
<FORCINO>, HAZEL
Michelle Forcino said Sterling K Mitchell was acting strange & nervous since the murders, he lived with Dana at Dorris Foster Home
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Dana traded boots 4/11/81 with her brother, Sterling K Mitchell
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It's weird that Michelle Forcino from above becomes "Sheree F." here
"SIERRA CENTER LIQUOR STORE
(Keith Nicoles) sold 1/4 keg to Sheree F. on 4/11/81 (Crimm)
Michelle "Sheree" Forcino (nee Mitchell).
Let me see if I have this straight. Michelle's brother is living in the foster home with Dana. Michelle is married to the brother of Officer Forcino who took her statement.
I recall we previously found that Michelle and her husband were actually living in Keddie at the time, but aren't listed on the roster of residents (but it looks like there were a few others not listed as well.)
My guess would be that if she bought a pony keg, there was a gathering of some kind.
I'm dropping this here because it seems to me there was more I need to re-find/look into
*(note to self) am wondering about the ages of scott and Bobby F, maybe she bought for them?
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Post by Hope on Mar 11, 2023 8:12:56 GMT
Yeah no kidding!! PCSO are checking everywhere for kegs sold that day & looking for any parties that occurred.... They find someone and she's only interviewed by her brother in law?!? No documentation of her whereabouts that weekend or why she bought the beer. Did they find out after Forcino's interview with his sister in law that she purchased a keg? And no one returned to ask her about it?
These are probably the other entries you mentioned:
Again, after chasing down possible parties no one follows up on Shanks lead about Bobbie or Scott? Neither one of them is even interviewed?
For all the accusations made against PCSO its funny the real issue that may have had an affect on how this investigation was handled is left out.
You sent me back down the Forcino rabbit hole snoho lol. I was going to post more news articles about their troubles, arrests, drugs, assaults but there are just too many all across the family.
I came across some new ones I hadn't seen before. We know Scott was friends (& arrested multiple times) with Steven H, Baird M & Monty. Well, Scott & Charles (Robert) F were also arrested with the Stratton brothers at different times.
Rumors of Scott or Bobby at an acid party in Meadow Valley = the Stratton's. Karl Spang told his story of a party in Meadow Valley and specifically named the Stratton's. JR once mentioned Scott F lived very close to Jackie Alvey on Manzanita. Middle of the night Steven H shows up at Jackie's with Monty. Dirty, panicked, and scaring her with his behavior saying he needs to get out of town asap.
I'm not pointing the finger at anyone specific but it appears several groups of people had knowledge one way or another. No one admits to this party because of whatever happened there imo.
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Post by Hope on Mar 11, 2023 8:34:06 GMT
The other concerning aspect of this case is Forcino's family members closeness to the Dorris home and certain PCSO officers spending time there. Forcino & DeCrona. Forcino & Brubaker were the drug officers in 81. Later DeCrona. Vulnerable, troubled kids. Can't help but wonder if there was some arrangement between those kids and PCSO. Even if unofficial.
Why was Dana to be moved to a more secure home out of county? He appeared to be doing well there and staying out of trouble. But at the same time the Dorris were very lenient considering why those boys were there. There's also practically nothing about Dana in the available case files.
Also, it appears the Forcino's have more ties to Keddie than we realized. From those new articles:
1966-11-24 - Harry F., 47 of Keddie found innocent of child xx charges
1976-03-04 - Larry F of Keddie injured in MVA
1980-10-14 - Charles Robert F, Keddie, no evidence of current registration
From prior articles Scott & Randy both lived in Keddie. Definitely wonder if Randy F was the Randy that Marilyn used to talk about. She once said Richard M told her Randy worked as a security guard or something. Turns out Robert F was a jailer in 1977.
Kmik, what was the possible connection you found between Dana, Steven H and a previous resident of a cabin in Keddie? I forget the details except we believed that prior tentant may have been one of the Forcino's. It definitely seems likely.
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Post by snoho17 on Mar 11, 2023 10:21:37 GMT
I think I posted a slew of articles on the ZH forum, I went down the Forcino hole for awhile. Problem is, its one of so MANY rabbit holes! All the tunnels cross paths at one point or another, but none seem to meet at any center. All I could find in a brief look earlier, was Randy was living in Keddie as of Nov '80 and Quincy be May '81. It seems there were several Forcino's living in Keddie off and on through the years.
"Kmik, what was the possible connection you found between Dana, Steven H and a previous resident of a cabin in Keddie? I forget the details except we believed that prior tentant may have been one of the Forcino's." Nice call back Hope! I do recall (Seabolts?) saying Dana used to visit a cabin, I was thinking connecting to 13 for some reason? But I really don't remember, except for a minor alarm bell dinging with whoever it was. Problem is, that happens all the time while trying to stay on point. Everybody was freak'n connected one way or another!
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Post by snoho17 on May 5, 2024 19:37:03 GMT
I want to remark on this while I'm here, I did find (and I hope I posted it somewhere here) that Gary Wingate had a girlfriend living in Keddie prior to the murders. Dana would go to Keddie with his dad. I know Dana was said to be a frequent visitor at another cabin. For some reason I had it in my head as Frank Davis, but don't quote me on that one
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Post by kmik on May 7, 2024 3:50:00 GMT
Yes Snoho, Frank Davis said in his 6-81 interview that Dana use to visit the people who lived in Cabin 16 but someone else lived in 16 now (Mike Plyer and Barbara M who were living in #16 at the time of the murders and had moved there in January '81). Frank was asked if Dana visited #16 before the Sharps moved in and he said he thought so.
Judith Lynt moved out of Cabin #16 on December 15, 1980 so I'm guessing that's who was living there when Dana was visiting. Remember Judith's daughter was friends with Margaret Krois and Margaret (19 at that time) had spent that weekend with Judith's daughter. Hadn't Dana dated Margaret or Maggie (are they the same person I don't remember). Maybe that's who he was visiting with at Judith's? But if Judith lived there until December 1980 then the Sharps had been living there a little over a month by the time she moved out and he possibly visited with Johnny too because a neighbor at Clairmont trailer park said he'd seen Dana visiting the Sharps when they lived there.
I know it's been discussed here that maybe that's where the "Randy" lived that Marilyn referred to in old posts and maybe she was right and this "Randy" lived with or dated Judith?
I just checked Judith’s interview and that’s possibly why she was interviewed because she had lived in #16 before Mike and Barb. She also said she knew Tina and Ricky they had visited often and her son had spent the night with Ricky 2 weeks before the murders.
**Also I do remember an old post discussing Gary Wingate having a girlfriend who lived in Keddie but was thinking that was several years before the murders - but I could be wrong
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Here's a few of the Forcino articles 
