camfaults
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Historian, researcher, writer; major focus on cold cases of California
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Post by camfaults on Mar 18, 2022 5:04:57 GMT
I'm creating this thread to discuss how new people were viewed by longtime residents of the little towns of Plumas County, most notably Quincy and Keddie.
In the Josh Hancock documentary, local newspaper reporter Victoria Metcalfe mentions that the Sharp family was on welfare and that was "not a popular thing" in Plumas County and resulted in "a stigmatism attached to you." How accurate was her statement? Or was this all just her opinion?
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Post by snoho17 on Mar 18, 2022 19:20:28 GMT
I've heard words like "impoverished" used to describe plumas co numerous times, seems like most people were scrambling to get by. And from what I recall sue received grant money for taking classes and support from her husband through the Navy. I don't know that Sue was on actual state welfare. The family did receive food stamps. Victoria also said Sue was a drug dealing prostitute, so I'd take her welfare statement with a grain of salt
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Post by joemcplumber on Mar 18, 2022 20:23:00 GMT
It took me at least a decade to stop being considered a "flatlander". That was an actual epithet and an unforgivable sin. But i was born on a mountain, the term was a stand-in for "person from elsewhere".
I think that may have been Vicky's bias, as half the county was on welfare at one time or another. We had some absolutely ridiculous unemplyment rate for a while, in excess of 20% and that's just the official number of folk registered with the Employment Dept.
But my sense of the area was an eclectic mix of various sorts of hippies, various sorts of loggers, USFS employees, and just plain folk, who really didn't sort themselves that way. I got into some scrapes early on for having long hair but that was random, and i was also friends with some very red necked rednecks. Who smoked pot. And hippies who loved guns.
May i please know when and where Metcalf said these things about Sue?
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Post by snoho17 on Mar 18, 2022 21:13:38 GMT
It was on the documentary, I'll see if I can find a transcript.
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Post by snoho17 on Mar 18, 2022 21:47:38 GMT
Victoria Metcalf," The mother was the type who had alot of men friends, uhm constant comings and goings as I understand it. You know everyone knew, that that the family was on welfare and in those days, that was not a popular thing to have happen to you here in plumas co. And so you immediately had sort of a stigmatism attached to you. You know there were alot of rumors at the time about "my gosh the way she dealt drugs it could be anybody, it could be a big drug party that got out of hand." Some of the rumors dealt with her sleeping with various men for money." Pt. one of the documentary.
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Post by kmik on Mar 18, 2022 21:56:48 GMT
But Victoria said these were the rumors going around at the time of the murders not her personal opinion.
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Post by joemcplumber on Mar 18, 2022 21:58:29 GMT
Viciously disrespectful and uncalled for. And absolutely unbecoming a journalist. Rumor is rumor. It is gossip. It is not for documentary and Josh is culpable here too.
Edit: And i recall no such rumor or gossip. It was likely generated in speculation following the murders.
Edit: By people who wouldn't even recognize Sue.
Edit: So add to my characterization, "chock full of busybody gossipmongers".
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Post by snoho17 on Mar 18, 2022 23:00:41 GMT
But Victoria said these were the rumors going around at the time of the murders not her personal opinion. True. For alot of people including me, the docs what got me to dive in. It is an unfair introduction to Sue that was a huge distraction. Finding not a single person to have made statements like that, I had to backtrack. I'm very familiar with small towns, gossip was a serious sport! LOL I guess I'm upset that was haphazardly tossed into the film with no real context.
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Post by kmik on Mar 19, 2022 1:48:39 GMT
I'm with you Snoho, regardless of what was said in the documentary - the documentary is what got us interested in the case. I could care less if she dated men for money, was on welfare or dealt drugs there was absolutely no reason for someone to have killed any of them. I don't see anything wrong with what Victoria Metcalf said all true crime shows/podcast always tell what the gossip was and obviously Sheila didn't have a problem with it. The reports say she dated several men (have no idea if it was for money) - she was 36 and single
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