I was just wondering myself who was the person who rescinded the names on the xxxbartender reports, and "bombshell" emails. Are we supposed to believe that Gamberg asked Dmac to rescind the names? For what reason? All these years and all these reports later, and this is what he is supposed to keep a secret? That doesn't make sense.
I can't find it now, but there is discussion of a Linda? Or Judy? bartenders as well that spoke to law enforcement? What was Cruzita's boyfriend's name? Wasn't it something short like "mark", but in the so called reports the space is much larger, so was his full name used?
I do not believe Cruzita, I don't believe Kathy....and I dont know why their names would be protected. Something stinks
It does stink. Big time. “Voldemort” 😂 knows it stinks too. He makes that obvious by the way he hides everything related to these specific people. He has said many times that Gamberg has never requested he hold anything back. And he even wrote what snoho said, that Gamberg told him “Fuck it. Put it all out there”. This was after he was let go as Special Investigator & it sounds like he was a little salty over that. What a bad move for an investigator to buddy up with someone like that. Who knows what the truth is, but it sure is doing Gamberg no favors having k28 speak for him & share stories like that!
When k28 first announced the ride he apparently didn't properly relay the details. Then he left it like that for a couple years before putting up another post explaining what he got wrong. Except the second explanation was just as hard to follow. There were some good, important questions asked and of course they all went unanswered. The original thread with the “bombshell announcement” can be read here:
keddietruth.freeforums.net/thread/376/2017-confirmed-gave-ride-keddieNot sure if the later thread has been posted here. If not I'll add that entire thread too, but here's how it starts:
ETA: the full thread is posted here:
keddietruth.freeforums.net/thread/377/2021-kathy-last-complete-storyI do recall posts about someone being promised anonymity. And I do get that. But at the same time, who rode the boys home has always been one of the biggest mysteries of this case. People are being accused of murder left & right. It's beyond anonymity, it's the fact there are a lot of questionable things surrounding this ride home, the narrative put out and the lengths he's going through to hide the interviews with these people back in ‘81. Not to mention claims of PCSO being aware and “burying it” which is complete BS. To the point he altered a report pertaining to someone else trying to pass it off as pertaining to “xxxbartender”. It stinks, as you said. The files should speak for themselves. Lay em out there. He won't do that because Kathy is liar. Spang is sus. And “xxxbartender” had more to say than the single line of report he did release. And what she had to say points to a motive surrounding Johnny & Dana. His #1 witness calls his theory into question.
Linda & Judy have both come up regarding the ride/affair. Linda, is Gamberg's wife. She was in one of the typing classes with Sue. Was it the one with xxxbartender, Marty & Sue?? Ain't that something… if the Special Investigators wife was in the same class? If she was she certainly wasn't aware of this supposed blatant affair xxxbartender was witness to. If she was, she would have brought it to Gamberg's attention years ago.
I used to think xxxbartender was simply confusing Sue with Marilyn. “Two semesters ago”, Sue wasn't in those classes very long from what we recall and she described the relationship as “going with”. That's not some secret affair, that's a relationship. Marilyn was attending FRC too. Along with everyone else and no one else, in 40 years, ever mentioned Sue & Marty being an item, on display at the FRC. Now I honestly wonder if Cruzita was repeating those rumors Kathy liked to spread about Sue & Tina. And if so…. I dunno it's questionable behavior to me.
I also think of Donna. When she said she dropped J&D off and Sue was dressed up like she was going out. Snoho opined perhaps she was present when the boys were dropped off and it was Marilyn she saw, from a distance. Since we know Marilyn was all dressed up that night and she always said she knocked on Sue's door that night. I think that's an interesting thought & plausible. But recently I've been thinking, was Donna told to say that? Put more attention on Sue as the target, since that appears to be the intent of all Kathy rumors - attention on Sue & Tina. Keep attention off Dana & Johnny?? Why did Kathy originally tell investigators she heard Donna rode J&D home? Did she want Donna to be “the ride” at first? It's all weird imo
Anyway…. Judy. Snoho posted Judy's PON entry. That's all that's available from her interview. She was the bartender that discredited Spang's statement of being at to the Pioneer Bar in Greenville the night of the homicides & witnessing a fight. So Gamberg's report of “___ dispelling what spang told investigators…." K28 makes it appear as if xxxbartender was dispelling Spangs bar story. We've felt k28 is likely combining Judy's previously known statements & Cruzita's statements to Gamberg. Blurring the truth to turn it into a single, more reliable statement. Judy passed away prior to 2017, so Gamberg wasn't speaking with her. Whatever "xxxbartender" was dispelling regarding Spang, it was something different.
Portions of Gamberg's report, like the affair, bowling alley fight with “different Sue”, that's definitely Cruzita. Mark's statements are mentioned & him being ____’s boyfriend. So also Cruzita. Somewhere along the line there's a piece of the story missing.
Spang told investigators he had a girl with him in Keddie that night. The timing of Spang, Cruzita, Marks interviews in 81, they were connected. Mark spoke of Spang. Spang led investigators to Cruzita and I'd bet anything that's because she's the girl he claimed to be with that night. That is likely the Spang story Cruzita dispelled to investigators in '81. Hell no k28 can't put that out there. Making it appear that she was the bartender who dispelled Spangs story about being in the Greenville bar sounds a lot better. The story never made sense and maybe that's because it's mashed up, created story combining multiple different events & people??
In Gamberg's report, it's almost like some chunk is missing. Cruzita is discussed, and it's made to appear as if it just continues on about her. When there very well may be something in between. k28 has named Cruzita, but nothing he says is believable. When the “bombshell” was first told, a sister was involved. Cruzita may be the sister. And her sister the actual ride. The family lived in the Beckley's property, same housing as Kathy. It's claimed PCSO “spoke with xxxbartender” many times. Can't say I believe that at all. If true, that's interesting because those interviews would likely have been about spang, drugs, etc. But her PON entry only mentions the bowling alley fight and none of Cruzita's sisters appear on the PON (if one of them were the ride & “xxxbartender” truly spoken to many times).
I need to find a couple comments made about Cruzita, Kathy, the ride. In one of them he wrote how Gamberg couldn't locate Kathy right away so he went after Cruzita, found her brother & sister first then spoke with Cruzita. In all the released files, there is nothing that includes Kathy & Cruzita's name in the same report. There is some file, likely in those Wright files Gamberg came across that name Kathy & Cruzita together. Otherwise why would he connect those two and be looking to talk to the two of them? And of course we know it was Wrights unreleased interviews with Spang that originally sent Gamberg down this trail. Spang very well may have named both Kathy & Cruzita in his interviews. Something stinks.