Jaime Seabolt

"I asked her if she saw him go in and she said she did". Is this Zonita talking about watching Jaime enter the cabin? I kinda, really think it is...

I have been thinking along the same lines as well for awhile.

Ok, so the picture of the blanket covering Sue, says quite a bit to me.
The edge of that blanket is definitely on the cushion saturated with blood. So why isn’t there blood on that blankets edge!?! Even further down the line the edge of that blanket is in the puddles of blood, no blood on the blanket. No blood on the top parts that we can see covering her either. If Justin or Tina had covered her after the murders, why isn’t there any blood on it? Not even one dark spot you can see on any part of it?

My guess? Jamie Seabolt. There was so much time that lapsed between the murders and when they were found, it’s dried enough it did not absorb any of it. Tina could not have covered her mother hours and hours before, because there would be blood absorbed. Justin was asleep when they pulled the kids out of that window, so unless he was somehow Superman and ran and covered her before they pulled him from the window he didn’t do it that morning. If he had participated and felt remorse and covered her after what had happened, there would be blood absorbed throughout the entire edge of the blanket that sat in puddles of blood for hours. There’s no way around that. Jaime is the only one that admits he went into the cabin that morning before cops got there. Jamie was also a practicing Mormon, who believe in modesty. If he’d had seen Sue without clothes on the bottom half of her body, he may have felt it necessary to cover her for decency sake. Even if this photo was taken 2 hours later, it was enough time for that blood to be dried up (not completely) and not absorb well in to the blanket. Even IF Sue didn’t step in that blood there was so much of it on her feet after the fact (which imho is not plausible that her feet were just sitting on top of it and had the amount they did on them) it squished between her toes.

Now, Zonita had run to the neighbors to call the police and I read (correct me if I’m wrong) she went and also got dressed. So when Klement got there all these kids had been out there talking amongst themselves. Jamie may have told those boys he covered Sue. Told them everything he saw. He went into that cabin. I don’t care if he recanted later. I think his momma made him recant after she knew he covered Sue. Justin heard everything Jaime Seabolt saw probably before Klement even got there. Then he repeats it again without the covering of Sue, because he probably thought he’d get in trouble with his mom and Klement. (Speculation on my part) His mom probably found out what he did later and made him take the statement back. But Justin…being there heard everything Jamie saw and tried to help by making it his own story. Shock, confusion, and probably scared as hell. Then the authorities and family were pressuring him to tell them what he saw/knew. I believe he told the truth that morning when he was questioned. But felt obligated to help.


I wish there were more photos of the blanket over Sue, so we could see just how clean it was and Klements reports on what he was told and who was there when he first arrived. I’ve been hoping to hell Klements report would eventually come to light, but no luck. I’ve asked for years for them, because I hoped he wrote everything he was told that morning by the group of people that were all talking to him.

Basically there’s no flippin way Tina covered her mom with that light colored blanket right after the murders, and no way Justin did either right after the murders. Had to have been in the morning after a lot of it had dried. Literally right before the police came.

Wow akat. First of all, nice work! You put that together so nicely. Secondly, I am sorry I'm just now posting a reply. I intended to do so a lot sooner.

I was kind of stunned when I read your post - in a good way : ) I'm so glad you posted this, because Snoho & I had just recently been discussing the same exact things! It was a different path that led us here but it ended with the same conclusions. It started with a FB post of Snoho's, but then one thing led to another each time we revisited different files. I have something to post for it, so I'll add a link instead of getting into all of it here. Reviewing Justin's statements without any preexisting beliefs/biases, along with the statements of others present Sunday morning, the crime scene, etc, the Justin aspect of this case made more sense than it ever had before.

We were questioning what evidence items may have been sent for testing/retesting after the 2014 & if Justin's DNA may have been identified on anything besides the tape. It seems likely Gamberg would have chosen to test items he believed would come back as Justin, to add more to his case. That led to the blanket and to Jamie (more below).

That was smart thinking regarding the lack of blood on the blanket. I hadn't considered the lack of blood in areas where seepage should have been present nor how the overall lack of blood could be helpful in determining when the blanket was placed. Now that you point it out I definitely agree with you.

The blanket being so clean was one of the reasons I could never accept it was Justin who covered Sue. I just couldn't see a 12 y.o. kid being able to maneuver around that crime scene with a blanket and somehow not getting any blood on it or himself. Plus the way the blanket was perfectly placed so that it completely covered Sue. Everything was too clean & too perfect, imo the scene looked quite different if Justin had placed that blanket. It's highly likely the blanket would have had some blood on it from the living room floor and Justin would have transferred some of it back to the boys room and onto his bed/bedding. DT said there was absolutely no blood on Justin that morning, nor was there anything else about him which would have led PCSO to believe Justin was anything more than a possible witness.

Despite all those things & more, it was still difficult to completely dismiss Justin since it's been constantly claimed since 2014 that Gamberg had confirmed it was Justin and made a post detailing it on k28. It was portrayed as is Gamberg had verified with or obtained an admission from Justin. Now we all know you can't believe anything said about this case without seeing it with our own eyes. Didn't believe it but couldn't say that it didn't occur either. Until recently, finally, getting to read that post of Gamberg's and read his own words. That confirmed there was no admission from Justin to Gamberg. Gamberg's "confirmation" came from a third party, the same individual(s) & information told during the making of the documentary. It's highly unlikely Justin would reveal any such thing to people he had just met and ridiculous their statement be used as "confirmation" without confronting Justin with it.

That was an important piece of information. With each new piece, no matter how small, what we know about the case evolves. Assessments, conclusions & opinions also evolve or change depending on the available information. Many aspects of this case are intertwined, finding corroborating evidence for one piece or being able to disprove/eliminate another piece all plays a part in the bigger picture. We make sure to take everything into consideration and form our opinions based using only factual information, case files and the evidence. This is a perfect example of that. I won't fully eliminate Justin as a possibility, however, the evidence does not support this. In fact, it points to someone else as being the person who covered Sue.

Besides Justin, the other possibilities included Tina, one of the perpetrators, Jamie, Uncle Don & Sheila. Your observation sufficiently eliminates Tina or a suspect. Uncle Don, we don't know exactly when he got there but it appears more likely it was around the same time as LE. We don't know if he was there before or after Klement, only that he was there when Shaver arrived. Neither Jamie nor Paula mention Don being there before LE arrived, just Les & Doug A. Sheila wasn't gone long enough, her eyes obviously focused on Johnny as she opened the door and immediately ran back to the Seabolts. That leaves Jamie. All the reasons you included in your post. Definitely agreed that was the reason he recanted going inside and that his mom made him do that once she found out. It's why they were acting so weird and making special trips to PCSO to specifically state (again) that Jamie did not go inside. Although, I think there may be even more behind that.

We also have the slip up which revealed Jamie had finally admitted going inside 28, but only after Gamberg confronted him with some sort of evidence that gave him no choice but to tell the truth. We had considered the blanket or even the bent steak knife as possibilities. Only because the discussion had progressed from Justin > possibility of later DNA testing > a statement included in the 2018 Plumas News series > possible evidence items tested > what was said about Jamie.
Something was tested & the DNA found didn't belong to Justin but to a different & unidentified male.

The other possibility we considered was the section of wall near the front door which contained the bloody partial fingerprint. We know Megan specifically requested that item after Justin's DNA was matched to the tape. Jamie fingerprints were compared to the bloody partial print back in 81, but testing has come a long way since then and perhaps it was DNA on the wall itself. I hope it wasn't DNA recovered from the actual fingerprint since that was the only real clue the original investigators had. It would, however, explain Gamberg's statement that he believed those responsible wore gloves. That didn't make much sense knowing they had recovered a bloody partial fingerprint.


Oh, that was something else I meant to ask - what we all thought of the smears of blood found on the bed that the blanket came off of. I believe it was Stoy who was in those recordings, & said it looked like the smears were left when the blanket removed. The smears appeared faint in the photos, not heavy amount of blood for sure. Any thoughts on that? There were blood drops & stains in the girls room including clothing & bedding of the other bed. Possibly he got some blood on his fingers while inside the cabin & used the fitted sheet to to wipe it off after removing the blanket? But blanket removed > smear on bedspread > bloody partial on wall near front door. Makes sense & lines up to me.


Whatever Jamie was confronted with, if it was DNA, it had to have been discovered after April 2014. At that point it was only the unidentified male from the piece of tape that they were comparing suspects to. It certainly seems like some piece of evidence was sent off & DNA was detected, but it didn't match Justin or the other male suspects they had DNA profiles on. Gamberg then brought Jamie in, Jamie denied going inside again and a DNA sample was collected for elimination purposes. Instead his DNA came back as a match, he was brought back in and admitted the had gone inside 28 when confronted with the results. Whatever it was, it very likely may have been what Gamberg was referring to here in 2018:


"By September, he expects to have more evidence to give them".


Any other ideas for what it may have been? I'm with you about Justin as well. It seems everything he knew can be traced back to Sunday morning, whether he overhead or saw those things himself. Snoho had posted the question re: is it possible Justin & Paula went to the front door or even inside the living room when alone outside? I think it is possible. There's more to go over and always possible we'll find something that will change this opinion. But so far, everything revisited fits right in. A new thought on old information, unbelievable the effect it can have. I'm going to finish & post what I was working on and I know snoho has been working on a couple things too. I'm looking forward to further discussing all of this and seeing where it may lead!

You're right, it was 2017 that he made that announcement, not 2014. Gamberg does have that way with words as well, but Dmac's in a league of his own when it comes to that. Gamberg was clear about the blanket though. I had just never read his own words until June 2023, when that thread was moved to the public portion of the forum.




What I did read were plenty of posts citing that confirmation of Gamberg's, re: "Justin covered Sue. This was confirmed by Gamberg and detailed in a post he made to this very forum as Gamman".

And posts like this one:



We knew Josh's old post re: "Justin covered Sue, this is an undisputed fact" came from the new owners & that made me wonder if that was also Gamberg's "confirmation". I was still surprised to read Gammans post & find out that was exactly it. The big question is, what, if anything, was done with the information after this?

You know my feelings on Gamberg. So, I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was the end of it. There were only two Gamberg interviews included in the list of Justin's known interviews. 5/22/14, when he provided his DNA sample and 3/22/16, when he was informed of the DNA match.....it took almost 2 years for him to be brought back in, informed & questioned about those results!?!? I'm sorry, that is unbelievable & disgraceful imo. He had DNA results he felt provided direct proof to those he thought to be responsible + proved specific speculations regarding Justin, but then he sat on it for two years?!? Instead of using this "gift from God", as he called it, as an investigative tool to get the answers he wanted from Justin? Interviewed him only one time afterwards & it took two years for that interview to occur? I dunno, that's kinda crazy to me.

Thank you Hope and Kmik. When I rewatched the documentary, that photo of the blanket covering Sue was the one thing that about slapped me in the face. It just stood out so much in comparison to the rest of that crime scene. Everything was covered in blood, but that blanket was not, not even a little. So I had some digging to do before I really said much.

As far as anything that Gam has said to the other one…until I see a full report with case numbers and it’s signed…I don’t believe any of it. And even if I saw his reports, I’m not sure how much of them I could believe. He was fired more than once from the sheriff’s office for stealing evidence and doing shady shit, things he shouldn’t have. He also testified on behalf of people that are tied to this case as a POI, a character witness for them.
My opinion of his skills as a qualified investigator are very very low. Especially if he was getting his information from that person and his forum. I’ve seen the interviews. He’s even fabricated evidence with the hammer pulled from the pond and some random knife found on the Keddie resort property. He put Keddie tags on them and had them tested over the weapons that were actually found in the crime scene! Or anything else they had from the evidence collected in 81! Why? Why would a true investigator do that? There’s no evidence of any kind there was more weapons used in this crime other than the BB gun. None. He allowed them to be photographed with evidence tags that have the case number and on them! Wasted the small resources he had to test unverified items. He did interviews with media tying them to Keddie based on pure speculation.

For someone who claims to know the victims and their families as well as he did, he sure didn’t give it his all in solving this case. He sure didn’t care when the other one has slandered so many people in this case. He sure didn’t care when he turned all these files over to the other one, and allowed the victims to be abused.

There’s a lot of talk about corrupt law enforcement in this case, and never pointed in the right direction. Just sayin.

I think it’s very very unlikely that Justin covered Sue with that blanket too, Hope. There wasn’t blood on him in the morning at all. I don’t see how he could of had the time to run into the girls room, grab blanket and sheet, run to living room, not step in blood and get back to the window to be lifted out within just a couple of minutes. If he had covered her earlier in the night, there should of been more blood on that blanket and sheet. It would of absorbed through the sheet quickly and through to the blanket.

Tina had been gone for hours, so she couldn’t have covered her mom.

It leaves Jamie or someone else that morning. I personally think it was Jamie. That original statement before tainted by anyone else or stories passed around for weeks after we’re most likely the truth for all of them. Even Paula stating she saw others going into the cabin was several days after the 11th and after Jamie recanted.
Im not saying she lied, but could have overheard Zonita telling Jamie to take his statement back and tried to help. -my speculation.