1981-05-22 Thomas C.

810522 Thomas Curnow - the full report - 4 pages
Postby jhancock » Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:00 pm

In an earlier thread I posted some of the notes that were taken during Sheriff Thomas's hypnosis of Thomas C. Here is the actual report on the interview with Thomas C.

The report is dated 5-22-81.

I contacted Thomas C. in regards to this case. Thomas had reported seeing two WMAs who looked like our composites. Thomas told me that he had seen these two in Quincy the week prior to the murders in Keddie. Thomas said that he had seen them first on Tuesday morning walking toward Quincy on Hwy 70 near Gray's Flower Garden. He next saw them Tuesday afternoon in Quincy at the Chevron station near the phone booths. They were talking to a fat girl who Thomas thinks lives in the downtown trailer park and hangs around with the young Marlboro girl. Thomas said that one of the Westlake boys was across the street at the Exxon station and he was yelling something toward the two guys or the girl. Thomas also said that he was almost certain that Dana Wingate was with the fat girl. Thomas said that Dana was a friend of hers and was seen with her much of the time.

Thomas said that he remembers seeing the two at Peoples Park in Quincy sometime during the week and that the ice cream people were there. The next time Thomas saw the two men was at the FRC college softball field where they were asking for some blow. They were in a white car which Thomas thought was an older Ford Sedan. Thomas said that a girl by the name of Sandy was with them and also a girl known only as Kambria who pays on the Hibreds Team of the women softball teams. Sandy is O.D. W's new stepdaughter. This all took place on Thursday, the week prior to the murders. Thomas described the two men and what they were wearing and said that they made people very uneasy when they were around. They were also not seen again after the murders. Thomas thought that someone had said they had gone toward L.A. ad that Sandy had been with them. Thomas asked if he could be hypnotized so that he could remember.

I contacted Sheriff Doug Thomas and we made an appointment with Thomas C. at 1915 hrs. for an interview under hypnosis. The interview was taped and is being transcribed. Thomas related much the same information under hypnosis and his recall was more vivid. He related a very clear description of the subjects, the long-haired one more so than the short-haired one. Thomas said the long-haired one was the leader and the other guy was like his shadow. After Thomas was brought out of hypnosis he changed some of the features of the long-haired guy's composite.

Thomas had told me of a strange happening on the morning of 4/11/81 at approx. 0300 hrs. Thomas said that he has to stoke up the stoves in the greenhouses very early in the mornings and as he was doing this on the above date, he saw a male subject on the road leading toward the Courthouse Annex which runs close to the Gray's. Thomas said that the guy was acting strange as if he was intoxicated or high. The guy walked into the fence a couple of times as if he could not understand that it was in his way. The guy finally turned and walked away and Thomas said he could hear metal dragging on the road. Thomas said he could not identify the sound or the guy, but later when he thought about it he got the feeling it was one of the two subjects he had seen the prior week. Thomas said he had heard voices when the guy got near the bus stop and shortly after, a car pulled into the road going to the Courthouse Annex and turned around and left. Thomas could not see what kind of car. Thomas said that he blond-haired guy looked like a cold type of individual and made him feel uneasy.